FSF voting member ascribes blame for russian invasion of Ukraine to, uh, Europe: https://snac.lx.oliva.nom.br/lxo/p/1740529517.639475 (in response to a tankie meme that kind of fails to take into account that the USSR sphere of influence was RATHER A LOT LARGER than Russia is today)

@mjg59 oh, not this NATO expansion conspiracy again… FSF, though, seems like the right snake pit for fostering such ideas. Look how much support they got in the comments!

Like fuck WHERE WAS THE WARSAW PACT BORDER ON THIS MAP BEFORE 1990 https://ursal.zone/users/austra_lopiteco/statuses/114064746376798913

The only actual change near Russia's borders since *2004* was as a result of Russia invading Ukraine this is a map that aims to just fucking lie to people

@mjg59 Yeah, this is one of those times when a single person is so unhinged, I'm just gonna mute the entire domain.

Fucking tankies, man.

@mjg59 I am starting to get the feeling that this guy is a professional dumbass whose job is to just have bad takes all day (he seems great at it, no notes)

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@mjg59 FSF people being generally terrible?

@mjg59 haha apparently Croatia was in NATO in '90?

@mjg59 I suppose global politics is a lot simpler if you treat certain countries as "buffers" with no agency of their own. Then you just need to decide which external power should control the country, rather than consider that they might have an opinion of their own.

And I suppose a lot of these people also think of themselves as being anti-imperialist.

@jamesh I mean the obvious counter here is that the US would have been justified in invading Cuba which, well, no

@mjg59 Or taking a current issue: people discussing whether "Greenland should be owned by Denmark" or "Greenland should be owned by the US" is better, and never even considering "Greenland might want to be independent" as an option.

@mjg59 @austra_lopiteco Having visited the House of Terror in Budapest, I can understand why they joined NATO. You would too after what the USSR did to them.

@mjg59 So many exclamation marks it has to be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@mjg59 Perhaps so. But I find the analysis of Jeffrey Sachs he did a couple of days ago extremely unsettling. As in: how to fuck did we get here !?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD_KEFpuIro

@mjg59 Also, I love how it has Czech Republic in NATO in 1990, a year in which Czech Republic famously already existed.

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It's sad to se how much effective Russian maksirovka and propaganda is. Even we from the former Eastern block are not 100% immune.

@mjg59 it is also totally factually wrong. All these countries btw. joined nato by their own wish, unlike they were forced to be Warsaw pact members before.

@lxo the only entity to blame for war here is Russia, and any other argument is abhorrent

@mjg59 Also a neat trick for Sweden and Finland joining to have caused the invasion of Ukraine, rather than vice versa!